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I turned on the radio on my way home, and the first thing I heard was a caller complaining about how violated he felt because his potential employer asked to log into his Facebook account.  "They are disrupting the privacy of me and my friends," he said sadly, "I couldn't believe they were doing this."  No sh*t.  Apparently companies are doing this and people actually complied... not without complaints, but they forked over their personal information and private life because they needed the job.

My first reaction is to feel incredulous that in a country of freedom, some people have so little of it.  I knew I would never put up that crap, and I felt sorry for people who have to.  Then I began to understand the answer to a question I've been asking myself for a long time now: what's my biggest motivation?

This may sound strange, but it's not "art" by itself.  I enjoy doing art at times but it can be equally frustrating, and I care a lot more about improving my personal craft than somehow helping the entire art world progress.  It's not really money, either.  Beyond paying bills and buying games, I don't have the mental maturity to fully appreciate money, and I do unpaid personal work all the time.  Listening to the radio last night, I realized that my major motivation is freedom.  It's not the freedom to harm others, or the freedom to get whatever I want.  It's the freedom to stare at the interviewer who's asking for my facebook password with wide eyes, laugh, and then walk out.  On a grander level, it's the freedom to choose what projects I want to work on, what kind of cultures I'd like to work in, and what kind of roles do I play.

By a stroke of incredible luck, I rolled the dice and ended up in an almost perfect scenario.  The world is ever-changing, though.  When the time to roll the dice comes again, my personal abilities will become my plus modifier, allowing me more choices in my action.  I work for a lot of things, but freedom is the one long-term goal that keeps me going.
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:iconrosscarnes:
rosscarnes Featured By Owner May 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Keep your motivation. You sound like a well grounded person to me. When you get my age you will look back with satisfaction rather than regret.
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner May 6, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you very much! Freedom from guilt and regret is definitely something I work towards :)
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matkaminski Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Just a quick thought, but... my real question then is... what happens when you tell your potential employer, "I don't have a Facebook account." That will probably raise more red flags than actually logging into yours I'd assume.

Hmm... maybe that's why the job search is so hard for me... <grumbles, ponders> :P
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Silverlute Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012   Digital Artist
You have just written what has been on my mind for a long time. I find internet one of the unsafest places just because of this. I don't have FB, MySpace etc. I had, but very soon I deleted them. At the moment this is the only place where I post my work aside tumblr. And only my works. I try not to use my personal info anywhere because the biggest FREEDOM is to have your own privacy. I agree on everything YOU said about freedom too.

Live and let others live is my moto.
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StriderDen Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
...and people think Police State is conspiracy stuff.
For me, it's becoming clearer and clearer how things does not work for the people, but for corporations and profit.
We're very very lucky to be able to live doing what we like, yet it doesn't deny the fact we're being used and abused by an industry.

Our freedom, privacy and quality of life are not the major concern, it's just a collateral effect, and that's what bothers me.
Orthodox people say if everyone pursuit selfish interests, major good will come as consequence... But why not, living in a world where major good is the objective?

I always wonder why we don't free people, in such abundant world. We can produce food for 12x human population, on United States we have 20 foreclosed houses for each 1 homeless person. Why don't we give all of this freely to people, and let them be? We would definetly NOT stay watching TV. If I wasn't a slave of my bills, wow... That would be freedom.
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Tokoldi Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
This is very insightful. I think a lot like you in terms of money, and I do believe if a potential employer wanted to be so intrusive I would walk out as well... although if it was Blizzard I'm not sure if I would walk out or submit. Being on one of the art teams is what I am working towards. But I doubt they would do that, so I don't think I have to worry about that at least xD
I appreciate your journal entries. They're always well worth the read, and they make me think. Thanks for sharing :)
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks! Well, thank God game companies are generally super cool and laid-back :) After working a couple of retail jobs and internships when I was in school, I detected a trend: the crappier the job is(mindless, low-paying), the more likely you'll have to deal with a-hole bosses and/or nonsense corporate rules. It's like a double whammy. My guess is that people (or companies) who are actually worth something don't feel like they have to be crushing your dignity to earn your respect.
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Kamakru Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
When I was filling out paperwork for my last job I had to sign a document stating that I would not bad-mouth my job or the company I worked for on Facebook. In all honesty it should be my right -that's freedom of speech! If they had asked for my password I would have told them to shove it - and they'd lose the most valuable asset that store had right behind the manager.
If we don't take a stand, there's no reason for them to change
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Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
not bad-mouthing one's workplace is kind of standard common sense good practice anyway. Everytime I see someone talk about how dumb their boss is or how dumb their client is I actually feel a little less respect towards the poster. It's kind of passive aggressive :P But you are totally right. In an ideal world we should have our freedom of speech, limited only by social decency and our best judgement.
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Kamakru Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012
Haha well that part I do agree on ;) It's not something I would do of course, but it's the principle of it all.
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FluorineSpark Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I also heard about the facebook thing, that employer asked for their candidate for facebook account, like a personal background check or something. I also find it extremely intrusive, it's like asking my sexual orientation or my religious believes. These are private information, and should be protected.

That being said, I can understand why people agree with it. I know how desperate people can be in this job market. I've been there, know the feeling. While it is definitely admirable for someone to laugh and leave the interview at such request, it's also understandable to accept it and reveal their facebook account, so this they would able to provide for himself and his family. Having options to choose company, project, company culture... is a luxury not all of us can afford.

Oh, and they're not asking your password, they just need to see your facebook account. So whatever you feel comfortable made public on facebook, they can see. So if you really want the job and know the company will ask for your facebook, probably a good idea to start building a dummy account.
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Silverlute Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012   Digital Artist
Some don't want to see what you put on public some want to be your FB "friends". Either way no one should be forced to show what they dont want to show or friend someone they dont want to friend.
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Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
In theory, facebook information is semi-public information. There's gotta be a line though. It's like my paper drawers at work. My boss or coworkers can probably legally dig through them, but they don't because it's a common decency thing.
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Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
yeah, I don't fault people for agreeing with it at all. Heck I would if I were in that situation... and I have "avoid this kind of situation" higher on my list than "make more money".
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FluorineSpark Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah, it's not right that employee has to choose between job and personal information. But the employer could argue that facebook is public information, whatever you make public is already "public". They won't be able to see anything you make private or even only open to your friends. You don't need to friend your employer, they only need to go see your facebook page. So technically speaking, they're not violating any privacy laws. They just want to know what you already made public. That's why the issue is controversial.

But yeah... I don't think employer should do this.
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
it's pretty simple to me... it's more beneficial to the employers if they don't give employees more reasons to resent their jobs, especially not before they even began the job :\
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runnergirl Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
this is why i don't have a facebook.
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
but without it how can i pretend to stay connected with my out-of-state friends?
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:iconsilverlute:
Silverlute Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012   Digital Artist
skype? Or if you don't want to talk then just don't (cosnidering what you said in later reply):)
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:iconrunnergirl:
runnergirl Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
:lmao: I dunno, cell phone?
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
that requires actual talking, which is dangerously close to real interaction :|
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:iconrunnergirl:
runnergirl Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
:iconimthinkingplz: hmmmmm, too true, too true. How about e-mail?
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
that requires thinking of something to write about. It's much easier to "like" one's puppy pictures on facebook!
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Zalcoti Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012   Digital Artist
This always confuses me, but, what if you don't have a facebook account?
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
hrm... maybe freedom from facebook is the true freedom :P
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:iconzalcoti:
Zalcoti Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012   Digital Artist
What would an employer to then? Think you are lying or make you register for the website?
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Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Google? I dunno :\
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perushinkov Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Though I have nothing to hide, I still find such an intrusion offensive! What do they have to do with our personal lives? When in the past they hired people, did they ask them for their family albums and private photos? So I agree with you! Smile, and just walk out of the room...
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I found the whole idea demeaning. Everybody's reaction, no matter whether they walk out of the room or stay and take the job, is "this is an asshole move". Knowing this, the company(s) still chose to continue this practice... to me it shows that the company doesn't care about its people, or have basic respect for that sense. I have nothing to hide either but that doesn't mean I'd let a stranger rummage through my closet.
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CaseyD2K Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I keep hearing about this but I am not hearing about where this is happening! People need to start being WAY more vocal and black-ball these companies who are blatantly infringing on their freedoms before it becomes a widely accepted practice. 20 years ago companies could ask whether or not you had a wife and kids as a means to eliminate you as a candidate for having outside distractions impairing your work performance. Enough people complained and that jive got axed! People still ask but if they do you can sue the crap out of them if you feel as though you were discriminated against as a result.
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Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Part of the system is they trained people (I included) to be extremely uncomfortable with naming names and talking about salaries what not :) System wins.
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CaseyD2K Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
If there is anything I have learned while working in the industry is that they need us as much as we need them. It may seem like most employers have the advantage over the employee but that is not true. In order for a company to be successful they need to hire honest hard working employees who are willing to go the extra mile to see a product or business succeed. When people just outright hire cannon-fodder to fill seats and get paid beans that's when companies start to tank. Employees should never sell themselves short on value, especially when they have a lot to offer.
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:iconnightblue-art:
Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Exactly, and lucky for us the individual values of each artist is more visible than many other professions :)
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Vanshira Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The joys of capitalism. It's not the government that owns you, it's your employer. I've tried the unemployment thing before, and if my current employer asked for my Facebook password on pain of being fired, I would hand it the hell over rather than have to look for another job.
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Nightblue-art Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
yeah I totally see why he did it and why you would do it. Not being forced to put up with BS employer is a big thing for me, and I'm hoping that i'll be able to be my own person as a digital craftsman instead of being completely owned by a company.
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Vanshira Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Not being forced to put up with BS from your employer is sadly a privilege that few enjoy in this day and age. :/ It doesn't help that I have a pretty narrow specialty within a field that's not too wide to begin with.
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